Why #GIRLBOSS interview missed the mark (and the message)

September 17, 2015

INKsights from #INBOUND15

Why #GIRLBOSS interview missed the mark (and the message)

Writing. Strategizing. Creating. Pumpkin spiced lattes (finally).

As my professional career chugs along, I continue to gain a greater understanding of what truly energizes me day in, and day out. Female empowerment—that’s emerged as another biggie for me. Following the stories of women who’ve rocked the business world inspires me, it motivates me. It’s something I’ve loved about walking into the doors of Reputation Ink every day.

Our CEO, Michelle, started our agency from the ground up with a team of talented, ambitious women by coincidence, not design—and I’ve felt honored to learn, and thrive, in that environment.

Learning is integral to our content marketing agency, and it’s one reason why our team shipped off to Boston for HubSpot’s #INBOUND15 conference last week. While I was eager to indulge in sessions featuring my natural espressos (writing, content strategy, etc.), I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t most giddy about the star-power of the session speakers. A conference that attracts 13,000+ people around the world would feature comedians Aziz Ansari and Amy Schumer, BuzzFeed founder Jonah Peretti—the list goes on.

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#GIRLBOSS Sophia Amoruso was another big name.

Wondering, “Who dat?”

She founded NastyGal—an online women’s fashion retailer that takes the 50 percent of my wallet Starbucks doesn’t. She’s also the author of #GIRLBOSS: a memoir about growing NastyGal, accessorized with “insights on entrepreneurship and career advice for young women.” Female empowerment.


It’s a book that’s been in my iBook cue for a while now. I’ve already rifled through titles I can only assume were similar, recently finishing Kate White’s I Shouldn’t Be Telling You This (highly recommend), Sheryl Sandberg’s Lean In, Thrive by Arianna Huffington. If this session would mirror even a fraction of what I’d taken from those pieces, I’d be more than pleased. I punched her session into my Google Calendar.

(Plus, there was something that seemed oddly familiar about Amoruso…)


(Other thought: Do I need bangs and/or a wind machine?)

Marketing has a ton of chicks, man.

While female empowerment is something that you know energizes me, in marketing, I’d imagine I’m not the only one it jolts.

Marketing is an industry dominated by women, facing a shit ton of challenges. What are the numbers? When I was Googling percentages, the below suggestions came up.

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I got pissed and stopped looking. Anyone in marketing or communications can tell you it’s a hell of a lot.

So, not surprisingly, the audience for Amoruso’s session was brim with chicks fan-girling.

I settled into my seat for Amoruso’s session early, snagging a spot that would allow for an optimal Snapchat photo (and optimal space for my larger-than-life briefcase).

Surprisingly, at a conference dedicated to inbound marketing, or key principles including:

  • Delivering relevant content
  • Tailoring your message to different platforms
  • Staying true to your brand/ story
  • Knowing your audience

… the session missed the mark.

Defining your message—and sticking to it.

I’ll be straight up. Nothing inherently awful happened. In fact, there were some solid takeaways. Here are some I jotted down:

  • Understand that, as a business owner, you’re not going to know everything that’s going on in the business at all times. This is why you must hire people you trust. Be confident your team will deliver important information to the top.
  • Leverage strengths with an all-star team. An admitted introvert, Amoruso said she realized she didn’t like a lot of what’s required as a leader. Commanding meetings, is one example. She’s learned to hire those who are “better than her at that.”
  • The Internet is an arena you need to make an impact on. “You can be an introvert but very loud on the Internet, and I think I did that.,” she said. They also discussed how she began making connections on the Internet by going on MySpace friending sprees.
  • Support other women. Some profits from #GIRLBOSS fund female creative business owners. Very cool.

But my issue is, that when honing in on the bigger picture—female entrepreneur/empowerment stuff—she missed it. Maybe she didn’t prepare. Maybe she wasn’t prompted by the interviewer in the best way (I studied journalism, I know how to eff this up). Asking the right questions is integral to eliciting the right answers. This situation was probably a mix.


Some examples:

  • When asked fellow women she admired, she replied moms: those with relationships and families.
  • Amoruso admitted a person’s ability to identify their strengths and weaknesses was important. However, she stumbled to answer them with confidence herself.
  • For her weakness, she identified her inability to put a smile on her face when she’s doing something she doesn’t want to, similar to how a child throws a temper tantrum. I think (and hope) that what she was trying to say, was that she struggles to hide emotion. It would’ve been great to dive into that more, another opportunity missed to discuss a topic that often arises with women in the workplace.
  • Answers were riddled with “ums” and “you knows” on both ends of the interview table. It was clear that she didn’t much understand what this conference was after a loose attempt to use the word “inbound.”
  • She seemed to devalue social media professionals, arguing just about anyone can learn it—offensive to an audience who studies best practices and hones their social media skills for brands and clients as a key business offering. There are plenty of brands, and people, who f**k up social media, by the way.

From a journalistic standpoint, the interviewer completely missed the fact that we were in the first days of New York Fashion Week—something not even mentioned. The only fashion bit the two touched on was what would be the next big thing in fashion, to which Amoruso replied was “marsala”— a color similar to burgundy. Both of them giggled back and forth that it sounded like a food dish, perhaps Indian.

(Amoruso is Italian: something she noted earlier in the interview.)

So, what’s my beef?

I don’t have anything wrong with Amoruso’s opinions. They’re just that: opinions. Everyone has a right to them. My beef is that she deviated from what I, and many others, presumed, to be the #GIRLBOSS message, the #GIRLBOSS platform. What she built her brand on: female empowerment.

If you’re dedicating your brand to being a #GIRLBOSS, a female entrepreneur and business owner, then why wouldn’t your answers and messages support that, or at least touch on it? Inspire?

After years of dedicating her life to her business, of course I understand that she’s eager and excited to take a step back and immerse herself in family and relationships. In fact, that’s fantastic. In fact, it would’ve been admirable for her to say that being a #GIRLBOSS doesn’t mean you have to pick one or the other (the overriding theme of most feminism today). But her message, as it came across, didn’t relay that.

Walking into a speaking engagement after stepping down as the NastyGal CEO and fresh off allegations of firing pregnant employees, her message has become blurred recently. What’s her message, exactly? And as someone who’s taking speaking engagements (and getting paid for them) in front of thousands of young women, that’s a real problem. In fact, when the interviewer asked her why women should “follow her” she said they shouldn’t (unless it was on Twitter or Instagram).

Politically Correct: Chelsea Clinton

Another woman who took the #INBOUND15 stage: Chelsea Clinton. I’ll be honest, I wasn’t thrilled about having a politically charged figure come into our marketing conference.

In fact, I planned on sitting in on Clinton’s session (the first of the morning) to guzzle down enough coffee to propel me to Ann Handley’s sure-to-be-packed session early.

Instead, I used that caffeine to dial in deeper to Clinton’s entire session. What made me stay?

It was so clear to me that Clinton prepared, and tailored, her message to her audience. She stayed true to her brand. Here’s how:

  • She referenced #HumansOfInbound – a #TBT-inspired hashtag from the conference. Clinton joked she would’ve submitted a 1980s photo of herself in front of a Commadore computer.
  • Clinton also gave nod to the Malala Fund, the #INBOUND15 charity partner.
  • Clinton spoke on the many issues women face, offering statistics from her noceilings.org initiative such as:
    • In 2010, women earned 57 percent of bachelor’s degrees in the US (only 18 percent of computer science degrees).
    • She discussed maternity and paternity leave (LOOKING AT YOU, #GIRLBOSS).
    • She spoke about core principles of inbound marketing, arguing we must find the right balance between stories and data, referencing the success of the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge social media campaign.

Clinton, in short, took

advantage of her platform and stayed true to her message. She knew her audience.

Haters Gonna Hate?

I’m not hating on #GIRLBOSS, I respect and love the NastyGal brand and what Amoruso has accomplished (my bank account can prove it). But, I’m wondering if the fact she took the stage to Taylor Swift’s “Shake It Off” was prophetic.

(Taylor Swift, by the way, has been using her platform fantastically, in her “Video of the Year” speech for the MTV Movie Awards saying, “There’s been a lot of discussion about this video and what it means, but I’m just happy that in 2015, we live in a world where boys can play princesses and girls can play soldiers.”)

Source: ET Online

I’m not a hater. That’s not what this is. I’m not a psycho feminist either. (Feminist, sure; psycho, debatable.)

I just wished this opportunity would’ve been seized. To me, it was missed. Overall, I didn’t leave that session feeling energized nor empowered.

I left confused about the message of #GIRLBOSS and her mission. The worst thing someone can take from your brand.

As the audience funneled out, I wondered if they felt the same.

“Wow—she looked fantastic!” a gaggle of 20-somethings chirped as they scurried out of the ballroom.

There was my answer. Decaf.

Modified from @TheRealPSL

Did you see the #GIRLBOSS #INBOUND15 session? What were your thoughts?


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